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Before Xerox: Historical Zine-Making Technologies

Peter Balestrieri is a processing librarian in Special Collections, where he is working with the James L. “Rusty” Hevelin Collection of pulps, fanzines, convention materials, and SF books (on Tumblr!). He is a professional musician (he played with some band called the Violent Femmes), a writer, and one of the most knowledgeable and nice guys you’ll ever meet.Kalmia Strong divides her time between working in the library and helping run a community art space, is an MFA candidate at the Center for the Book, and is super-close to finishing her MLS. By the t
ime this workshop happens, she will have put up an exhibition of alternative publishing in Iowa City.Colleen Theisen is the Outreach and Instruction Special Collections Librarian at the University of Iowa. Her background is in art history and teaching, and she can convince anyone in the world that old books and manuscripts are awesome.Andrea Kohashi volleys between the library, where she’s getting her MLS, and the Center for the Book, where she’s getting her MFA. Amongst the back and forth, she’s managed to get hooked on hectographs. Check out our blog post about making hectographs.mimeograph1.JPG


What it is:
Brought to you by the printing history nerds in UI Special Collections, this will be a hands-on demonstration of several historical copying technologies used to make zines (as well as little magzines, newsletters, etc). We will demo mimeograph and hectograph (and possibly a ditto machine!), and show some examples of zines produced with these technologies from Special Collections, dating from the 1930s-1980s

Cataloging ONE – RDA-LOD

LOD = linked open data

Shawn/Kalmia – U Iowa – all HTML-transitioning to EAD finding aids (all digital) — interested in LOD/crowdsourced metadata and collaborating with other institutions

Elissah/Minneapolis CC – about 5K zine records in a standalone database
uses MARC 10 or 15 elements and has experimented with LOD using Google API, Google Fusion Tables, and Open Refine (previously Google Refine)

Jenna/Barnard – AACR2, about 4K zine records
uses genre terms and abstracts

Joshua/MI State
traditional cataloging (using RDA) plus summaries

Gallery system
keywords generated by QZAP
moving towards xZINECOREx based — taxonomy of genre terms developed by Anchor Archive (
+ user-generated keywords
everything has the potential to become a facet

Stephanie (KC) starting new project
Library Thing

Gina — AACR2/MARC/Worldcat going RDA- interested in LOD

Elissah explains LD
open metadata registry allows you to build subject authority
now working on building links

Honor – LD relies on you making statements about your data (machine-readable: this thing IS this thing)
potentially could link offensive LCSH to preferred term in community/institution

how would we do this? would still need zine union catalog to connect different collections through the open metadata registry

Honor – in the MARC record world, currently, in the 650 you can do:
2nd indicator 7 with subfield 2 to specifiy your thesaurus

Jenna — how is Anchor Archive authority edited?
Elissah — Amanda is opening to sharing control of it (potentially collectively managed and updated)
Jenna — could we experiment with starting a name authority file?
Joshua — national authority file (LC)
Honor and Joshua can do authority work for personal names, potentially?

RDA name authority record has a lot more data about the individuals than AACR2
but, is optional (only required to differentiate)

Elissah — moving forward, using VIAF or LC for name authorities would probably be best

what about ZineWiki?


time/funding to make union catalog?

for those who are just starting — find a schema (xZINECOREx) and use it, then you’d do a data dump and mapping

Elissah will hopefully provide updates on her project! presenting at MN Library Association, ALA Tech Svcs webinar?

Jenna suggests — work session/codesprint in midwest?

Joshua — how can we share/get feedback from bigger community?

Honor recommends BibFrame listserv for those interested in LOD


Did quick review of zinecore/union catalog work to date.
Milo’s zinecore zine
Looked at QZAP’s test implementation of zinecore
Looked at MCTC Library’s back end in Google Fusion

  • Includes some Dublin Core elements that map to zinecore, some additional elements.
  • Uses Anchor Archive Subject Thesaurus (per cataloging discussion earlier today)

Union catalog will need data that’s been mapped from our various standards to a common set (e.g. zinecore)

  • QZAP & MCTC schemas are similiar; MARC21 records need to be broken up into more elemental pieces.

(In ideal world) we won’t have to have “the same” metadata, but rely on linked data and URIs to point to same entity, but have different subject headings, etc.

Union Catalog

No platform chosen yet. QZAP experimenting with Collective Access platform. Haven’t broached scalability issues.
We don’t know if an institution would need to host a linked open data server, or all of us chip in. We don’t know what kind of infrastructure we need on the back end.
Interests for maintaining autonomy and/or to allow access for libraries not affiliated with an institution, we might want to avoid having it hosted by a particular institution; but we may also have to rely on an institution to get it off the ground.
What kinds of open access / open data resources and communities are out there that we could hitch on to?
As metadata becomes more of an aggregate of linked nodes and less of a centrally-maintained repository, maybe this will be less of an issue for us.

  • Subject & genre nodes could be particularly important as means for searching/discovery

Zinecore for the layperson, or How do we get barefoot libraries in on the Union Catalog?

  • Having a the foundation of recommended descriptors is a great start; anyone can enter these
  • QZAP has zine donors supply metadata
  • Zinecore code generator: anybody can populate this and generate code with very simple instructions. Code could be sent/uploaded to various places.

MCTC’s baby steps to understand a zine union catalog: started with linked data.
Big Picture Questions re: Union Catalog
This conversation is the purview of librarians, but we should be iterative with the zine community about things like “How do you feel about these things being in a union catalog?”
Questions about research being done on zines; some that doesn’t respect or understand them – should we be facilitating that?
But we’re also cataloging for now and for years from now, when we’re all dead.
Recommendation: open up this conversation (the big picture stuff) on WeMakeZines.
Have to understand that Linked Data future is an open data future – for anyone, any entity (Google, Govt., etc.). It’s powerful, but it’s also there for anyone.
Action Items

  1. Get the “big picture” conversation rolling w/ the zine community: do they want this?
    1. Jenna’s working on an ILL/scanning survey for some zine creators now – maybe could lead to a second survey of same population.
  2. Get feedback on zinecore & union catalog infrastructure questions from broader catalog/metadata/IT communities.
  3. Update the zinecore zine as some of these questions get answered.
  4. Play with linked data.

Planning ZLUCs & zine events

Deciderer committee selecting city (this year was the first time we did it this way).
Criteria for selection

  • location vis a vis last year
  • place it hadn’t been
  • housing costs
  • transportation costs
  • transportation convenience
  • community support

Committee composition.
Things we can do now to make it easier for the next unconference.
Kudos to Kalmia, Kelly and Lisa for doing an amazing job organizing this event!
Online participation is crucial.
Organizers serving as curators, encouraging workshop leaders.
Have topic suggestions more fleshed out, add abstracts? It would help to have the unconference site in a blog format, rather than as a wiki for easier commenting? THATCamp model of providing bibliographies, along with with abstracts.
Basics and advanced tracks.
Suggested topics page could include links to previous ZLuC conference notes.
Survey potential attendees for topics. Have people answer what am I bringing/what do I want to get beforehand.
Intro for newbies/1st time attendees. (Ellisah and Colleen)
Some of this year’s first time attendees make a zine for next year’s newbies.
Post bio of yourself and your zine library to the unconference website.
Encourage some zinesters to attend?
Encourage library school students to come if they want to?
Need a technical fix for contacting everyone registered.

Other zine events

Use them as an opportunity to survey zinesters–zine panel that’s about asking questions, not presenting.
Develop a survey with input from the list beforehand.
Zine library day activities–remember it’s about getting people to show their appreciation of zine libraries and zine librarians by bringing them donuts.
Events people have done this year:

  • MSU 24-hour zine thing (not 24-hours!), in cooperation with Mid-Michigan Zine Fair event.
  • CLP comics (comics, minicomics, graphic novels) event with help from local comics experts. Got a grant to pay panelists to come.
  • ABQ had a dirty zine reading on Valentine’s Day “so people don’t have to feel shame on that day–unless that’s their thing.”
  • ABQ events prior to zine fest. “Seek and zine” event where cyclists follow clues about the city and then assemble a zine based on what they learn, working with Critical Mass.
  • ABQ opens zine library during Noise show and other zine events.
  • CLP zine reading hangouts, partnering with local themed groups, e.g. working with a bicycle advocacy group and bringing bike zines to a bar.
  • Barnard crafty workshop by longtime zinester/artist Marissa Falco.
  • MCTC zine maker kit
  • Maker Faire events with families
  • Billy Da Bunny’s zine olympics
  • Iowa: orientation activity–made cootie catchers (fortune-tellers/choose your own adventure) about Iowa
  • CLP zine library day: table set up with zine question prompts (maybe PGH city & sports related). Going to leave the table alone as much as possible.
  • Iowa–zine machine takeover with trans group
  • QZAP: guest curation or exhibit by a regular patron, a guest curator grouped pink zines
  • Schlesinger: showed Girls Rock film, solicit zines from Girls Rock zine making workshop

POC discussion

Moderated by Kalmia
Notes by Stephanie

Questions we have for ourselves:
What has already been done with representation of People of Color in zine collections and doing outreach to POC and other communities? What are people doing?

How does this affect collection policies and development?

Call to zine librarians to have POC representation in collections? Is it because you don’t have relationships with POC in your town?

Jude is feeling like she wants to develop more relationships in the community. She has been looking at how her collection is cataloged and what’s in the collection. She has created a general POC tag to the collection and has added specific cultures as well.

Moving towards Anchor archive subject authority does use the same subjects that America uses to talk about culture, ethnicity, or race. They might have “ethnic cooking” but not a reference to a specific culture. What are the categories to use for this?

There was a question about whether or not librarything has been used to access POC collections, and we are not sure.

QZAP uses self-identified tags created by people of color to access the collection. They were fortunate to have queer people of color provide them with ideas on the type of metadata to use when searching the collection.

Jude does this when someone adds a collection to the zine, she will ask them where they zine should be cataloged.

When we get to creating a thesaurus or control words, QZAP can share ways that their collection is being used through self-identified tags and also doing research to find out what people want to be self identified with. Retroactively looking at tags. Institutions that have done work to get direct feedback from communities on what to self identify with need to share that with others, but we also need to keep being open to getting that information.

How do you develop relationships with POC and the zine collection? How do you be inclusive?

For example, the community college librarian could reach out to a cultural group and see if they want to create a zine about their collection.

Could be harder to reach out to groups as a public librarian, because you have to reach outside of your institution and there are endless possibilities of who to contact in the community.

The concept of how to act as an ally, can help inform how to do outreach in a way that is not weird or icky. Making contact and saying, “if this is something that feels interesting as a place to contribute experience or documentation of project and work. If so, let me know if I can support that in anyway.”

There is this weird power dynamic that can happen if you own a collection and are trying to get someone interested in the collection and to publish, and we need to be aware of that.

We need to be aware of our power and privilege so that it’s not exclusive or monolithic or exclusionary. We need to be aware of what we are doing in terms of collection, interpreting, and sharing. Let access flow without barriers. There is a need to constantly be aware of historically of how there are certain assumptions, privileges and powers that I have and that I need to be aware that this is always going to be a factor. Be aware to move past that and let other people express themselves. From the perspective of Queer zines, POC were creating zines from the beginning! Struggle against misperceptions that zines are just an extension of hipster white culture!

White person + person who gets to make decision about what gets to be included in the collection is a “Double Whammy” thing to be concerned about. I’m the person that says yes or no to what you do. Collection development policies related to being inclusive!

Talking about the collection development policy is a way to be transparent about the power dynamics involved in creating the collection.

One librarian had an issue where they didn’t have POC zines for latino zines project, and since their collection is based on donations, they don’t have buying power. There are issues with saying, “hey POC” donate zines to our collection.

Reader’s Advisory guide on topics could be helpful.

Here are resources that can help you when you realize the limitation of your own collection. Is there a possibility to create a guide on this?

Cross referencing to relieve the pressure? Do we need to develop a “zine creator” to help make that representation?

How do I not create a new segregation? Do I want to have all the black zines on the table that nobody looks at, as this happens at zine fests.

Integration is also a part of the problem. There is a need create visibility and transparency without segregating a group of writers. We don’t want to create an extra hurdle to get over, so use caution in creating a “sub” group.

Who is already making? And who should be making?

We do want to create makers of the collection sometimes…

With tagging of library collections, we can make POC zine findable in that way if they want that, but topic wise they are integrated.

Why don’t we have more people of color at this zine conference?
- Is this because of institutional issue and how the library professional is mostly white women?
- The conference reflects in some ways the diversity in library staff at our institutions.
- Being conscientious about it isn’t enough, but what is the next step?

The conversation then talked about how libraries in general are inclusive or not of POC. The more we can represent diverse experiences, the better we are.

Never stop thinking about these things. Explore the diversities of ourselves and how it connects to the world and libraries at large.

Making personal connections based on own experiences in relation to barriers that prevent people from accessing and exploring libraries. Find out what the “thing” is inside you that makes you different.

Qzap- Step one is listening and taking advice that is freely given to us. Acknowledge how you are wrong and what you are doing to change. Continue listening. Get better at asking. Be comfortable learning as you go. It’s a lifelong process.

Constantly need to make sure we are balancing things in terms of power and assumptions about privilege and constantly checking, listening, and learning.

I try not to let shades and colors neutralize my experience. White does not mean one experience. Black does not mean one experience. Where we shut down, is when we label to shade in deciding it’s a singular experience that you only know through communication and talking. “Anyway in” Do you have a family history that you want to share with others? What have you collected? Can you make a zine?

DIY – everyone has something that they can share. One student created a zine about DIY maintenance for your car. “college life” They were created by POC, but everyone can relate to the experience. It’s easier for me to approach it as “what can you contribute to DIY” as opposed to “Creating Diversity” in the collection.

“You are part of this diverse world”

“Find your own diversity” (or your relationship to diversity). Something can get off balance when we don’t understand our own diversity and our own struggles. “I need to keep thinking and sharing about my struggle.”

It helps to play “less of a role” and more of a person. Helps diminish the sense of “otherness”. “There might be words as a white person I can’t say, but I can connect to the culture in other ways”. “These are part of my own experiences in how I learned and how I am growing”

Perhaps we can have more discussions at future events about this! Not just this one. Or not even just one discussion at an event.

Reader’s Advisory

Notes by Jude
Moderated by Milo

What people do now
Vancouver Public Library has a trifold with What’s a Zine plus lists
Carnegie Public has bookmarks on certain topics
Barnard is wanting to do a Zinedora thing – curated zine stations

What do people with larger collections do?
Jude shows them LibraryThing url and talks about tag searching
At UI can get people to a box that’ll likely hold relevant items
Sometimes UI Spec Coll gets general request – I want to learn about zines
Kelly – don’t have to know everything, have to identify characteristics people are looking for as starting point, Kelsey Smith says make sure public service staff refer people to zines e.g. want Queer books probably want Queer zines as well
Honor – people always coming back to her, since she’s “the zine person”
Jenna – dangerous, make sure collections don’t become “Jenna’s collection”
Outreach to colleagues, okay to talk about what you like
Question – do academic librarians push zines into curriculum?
- hard to get past make a zine only
- Jude shows women’s studies relevant zines to those classes
- Usually professor-driven, Women Who Rock class, can suggest UI zines, tons of relevant ones
Review tools?
- KC pop up using social media, could be way to do online RA
- as place for list of review tools
- has list of zines for teens
- Add zines to Libguides

Milo – QZAP gets occasional questions that are like “do my homework for me”
Others – academic librarians also get this, journalists do this
How to be supportive without doing others’ work completely, especially when zines are unfamiliar to people
Christopher – we haven’t learned to be curious and do the work, educational system doesn’t encourage this, critical thinking
Jude shares a set of links with journalists so they can do their homework, will post in a For Journalists spot on

Elissa will do Cooking zines
Jenna – abortion/menstrual extraction
Milo – HIV zines
Christopher – POC Zine Project list of queer people of color
Jude – consent/survivors
Matthew – zines about zine libraries
Stephanie – mental health
Colleen and Matthew – science fiction zines
Lisa – Latin American zines
Kelly – zines for kids
Kalmia – copyright/left
Marya — travel zines

Maybe 10 selected and annotated, can have multiple lists, couple sentences about intention of list at top, don’t just include zines from own library, can have author contact info for purchase
Contact individual librarians? Can we have form that links to Yahoo! Group?

Stephanie – how to do Intro to Zines workshop, wants resources
Honor – how to include info that this is NOT going to be like your usual research experience, “slow info movement”
- zine collection zine
- displays on what’s a zine
- share these resources on
- IPRC has how to do a zine workshop zine
- Similar to archival research e.g. looking at boxes, how can archival teaching relate to teaching about zines – Honor finds this idea useful for collaborating with colleagues
Alycia Sellie starts with How to Make This Very Zine in the beginning of her zine workshops so people can immediately be considered zinemakers

Teaching With Zines

Notes by Cassi
Moderated by Kelly

Issues with grading personal, creative expressions
Appropriate learning outcomes

Alternative to term papers—often making things in groups or alone
Professors are left on their own to figure out how to evaluate these new forms of learning expression
Wide gap of knowledge in how to evaluate these new forms: people don’t know how to evaluate non-traditional projects
IT doesn’t always go badly, but it’s a new project that doesn’t have clear evaluation guidelines

What would YOU like to hear?
Jude: Zines written for a class based on the women’s collection then become part of the women’s collection—woud like to offer support for teachers bringing students to the archive, including a possible rubric
Brittney: justify to others why zines can work in a classroom
Marya: use zine instruction to help anyone lessen the gap between ideas and publishing—lessen being self-conscious about self-creation
Cassi: use zines in bookmobile to help kids get excited not just about reading but also writing, and possibly including these productions in the bookmobile collection
Lisa: concern about collection issues (cataloging, etc). Just starting to think about how it would be used in teaching
Stephanie: curious about what is being done with zines and outreach—working with different groups to tie into her pop-up zine project. Also zines as DIY scholarship, taking ownership of knowledge and sharing it with each other
Colleen: classes come into ui special collections and make their own zines, supporting what professors what to do, but want to let professors know what their options are in this regard
Kelly: Learning to advocate for students in classes who are assigned zines in class
Matthew: looking for ways to make zines for his assignments in library school—has had assignments where the rubrics actually worsen the final project

How do you teach what a zine is? What is a zine? Is it anything?
Do you need a certain number of print runs to become a zine? 500 or less?
Economics are really important in zine making—it doesn’t require a big chunk of money

Let’s talk about teaching zines AND making zines
Stephanie made a zine and mini-zines (the mini-zine has a definition of what a zine is in the beginning) as outreach in her community
In a way we censor the answer about what zines are. It’s like a wave, sometimes it’s a wave, sometimes it’s something else. Depends on who you are talking to, who is in the room, what your end goal is.
Are mini-comics zines? Matthew says yes!
What’s the difference between a zine and an artist book? Does it matter?
Marya can’t call a chapbook a zine—resistant to putting chapbooks of poetry in the zine category. Poets want chapbooks to be considered zines, but they aren’t invested in the larger zine culture.
Format matters! Publishing, format, content. Fan fiction is not a zine, unless it’s published as such.
Jade: Weird conversation to have because zines are all about personal expression and inclusion, so definitions of what a zine is (esp excluding things) seem strange.
Transparency is really important, explaining the scope of your collection, your guidelines for your collection policy, and emphasizing that your specific collection has specific boundries that not all collections have to have.
Zines in ABQ tend to be very underground, people disavow zinemaking as though they have grown out of it, so Marya is trying to explain zines to other people without rigidly defining what it is
There can be a community definition—I didn’t make it, what do you think? You made it: do you think it’s a zine? “Asking an authority whether something is a zine is messed up.”
What is the artist’s intent? Did they want it to be a zine, or something else? A pamphlet? Do the production methods and distribution make something a zine even if that wasn’t the writer’s intent?
Doing outreach, a definition for “zine” is useful. You want people to feel good about what they are creating, even it if isn’t on the same level as more “professional” zines.
Pop-up zine project will take place in a laundry mat in a community with an artist school where people in the community all gather. There is definitely a link between what you decide you want in your collection and where your collection is going to go. Zines with shiny pages and bright colors can detract from the more basic zines and may discourage new creators from interacting in this format.
If I have the money to spend on creation, does it matter if I choose to spend it making a zine? Does that make it an elitist choice because I have access to certain programs and materials?
Tension between what is a zine and what isn’t is a good teaching point. “I like to show people the weirdest shit possible, from things that were made in 15 minutes and much more involved pieces, these can all be zines.” —Kelly
A goal of an instruction session can be for the group to come up with their own definition based on examples they are shown.
Zines tucked inside a bottle, made with corrugated covers and paint can handles.
“I like the idea of asking questions. I like me being responsible about the power that I have to collect them, but also asking other people what they think. More raising questions than trying to answer it.” —Jude
Information literacy in terms of how to understand the information object in front of you, but that’s not necessarily what their professor wants them to get out of their interaction with zines.
Learning objectives for working with zines? A rubric for how to grade zines? Use zines for something other than zines about zines?
Learning outcomes can be a little more inclusive than a rubric.
Link zines to access and wanting to communicate with people—could limit how you define zine

Outcome: learning is able to argue for characteristics than define a zine. (doesn’t matter what your definition is, just that you have one and can defend it)

It’s okay to have niche groups within the zine community.

“I don’t think about zines in terms of monetary gain or loss. If I have to make a copy of it, I’m loosing money, but I don’t care because I’m going to give that away. I don’t care if someone makes a glossy zine for 20 bucks, I might not buy it, but I don’t care if they make it.” —Marya

History zines from your own point of view. Things that happened in history that no one was looking at but that happened and were important. Betsy Coleman who was the first black woman to get a pilot’s license (in France) is an important person in history who we do not learn about. — use zines to teach information about a topic (in this case, science)

Great format for teaching yourself something. The intimacy of the zine—you’re always thinking about the person who made the zine.

Zines as a way for not just an individual to be a knowledge creator but also for a group who wants to think about something together and document their learning.

Seed library—people learning how to grow the plants and save the seeds could communicate about their experiences and things they’ve learned.

A zine with a CSA that goes out with the food that contains recipes that compliments the produce.

Zines reflect the WAY we think, and process ideas in a way that can get lost in our culture today.

Stolen Sharpie is in its 5th or 8th printing, but is it any less valuable/useful/important because there are so many copies and it costs more than $1?

Use zines to convey information literacy skills. You are handed a zine that contains information that says that it’s fact. How do you find out if information is true/accurate/”real”?

Awareness of format—mixed up page numbers on purpose, false citations, invented subject matter (review of a fake movie)

What do you do with the zines students make after the class is over? Is there a distribution plan?
Put into the library collection
Copy for each student of class zine
Put in the zine machine (in UI main library(
“Seek and zine”—3 bike riders get together and discover clues around town and make a mini zine together around town in 2 hours, copy it, and make it back home in the 2 hours—learn about the town they ride around downtown—Marya in ABQ
Trading—each student gets a copy of every other student’s zine (great way to get different perspective about the same topic)

Distribution is something missing from a research paper project—there is only one person reading your paper, where as the whole class can read everyone else’s work

“Swap Box”—leave a zine, take a zine (site, resources, etc.)

Notes by Kelly
Moderated by Honor

Background: maybe came out of the first ZluC, as a place to aggregate resources, more for zinesters and researchers than for us. It’s a WordPress site, originally created by Stephanie, Jenna, and Milo, perhaps?
Made sections that seemed relevant – weren’t sure whether to use Zinewiki or create a new website, or what…because we didn’t have the support to build something in Drupal.
Changed servers.
Survey by Kelly, Alycia, Nicki a few years back – last year at Pittsburgh, some tasks were divided, but not a lot of follow-up.
Nicki was doing a lot, seems to have gotten busy. Jenna keeps our bills paid.
Mediawiki is up (thanks to Milo) within the ZluC site

Goals: to help the public find stuff, but also for us to connect
Ways for us to share resources in a public way
Jude and Celina and Alycia looked at and suggested changes to structure.

What are the top priorities? Deadline: October 1, Honor/Kelly will send out reminder
- Rescue stuff from Zineworld’s website (e.g. distro list, postal chart) — JENNA
- List of libraries/directory — KALMIA
- Google Map – question about whether that is editable – MATTHEW WILL FOLLOW UP,
- Exploring resources about zine libraries – Exploring Collections — STEPHANIE
- Intro to Zines workshops – JUDE/STEPHANIE
- Zine primer for Media – JUDE!
- 4 posts a month/torch-passing — KELLY

Need to moderate tags – use this to identify news/zineographies
Do we separate things “for librarians” and “for the public”? Maybe through tags?
Jenna points out, if we don’t have people dedicated to information architecture, let’s use tags!
Still want to have visual ways for people to explore this (e.g. “Exploring collections” or “Welcome Researchers!”)
Changing URL – there was discussion about changing it, but we can’t remember what to…something inclusive of archivists/barefoot librarians
Jenna needs help changing that from the tech group.
Need to talk about sharing the costs for the website. Jenna says she’d prefer fundraising to go to the ZluC scholarship fund
[UX testing at PZS?]
Let’s talk about not duplicating efforts – e.g. Teaching with zines (on wemakezines and Barnard’s zine library website).
Let’s aggregate: how do we do a better job of funneling stuff here.
E.g. link out to things.
Could get folks to agree to take a month to post stuff, or each of us agree to post something in the next month – maybe a chain letter style? I’ll take this month, then email two people to ask them to take the next month. / Use the listserv.
Don’t just post a link, but contextualize it.
Feature: descriptions of different zine libraries
There’s a zinelibraries group on Flickr – widget?
Jenna and Milo are moderators on listserv. It’s pretty quiet – do we want more conversation on there? Moderation: if people can describe in a sentence or two why they want to join the listserv, Jenna and Milo decide – generally only say no to people who clearly want to promote their own zine.
Honor likes that it is quiet – high quality, low quantity
From the list of zine libraries, let them know about the listserv, since some folks probably don’t know about it. We all already do that, but keep it in mind.
With directory – let institutions know what we’ve posted about them – HONOR WILL WORK WITH KALMIA
Possible names (in terms of change:
Zine Libraries Interest Group – a result of considering whether to be part of ALA.
Zine Librarians Front?
Zine Librarian
Read More Zines
Save The Zines



negatives//things to change/consider in the future:

last two sessions are challenging energy-wise
should we try all-online conference?
what makes this conference appealing to a POC? how do we make it more inclusive? — this is something we should think about all the time!
missed connections — ppl who signed up for the wiki and never registered — more outreach
more context out front — preparation in advance
survey on established things in advance — to help smooth the plenary
more variety in activities to break up sitting and talking
discussion/presentation/skillshare + service project, zine olympics?
bring your de-accessioned zines!


opportunities to communicate and work with librarians from other types of libraries
not too many hard choices — having the conversations we wanted to have
both the content and the way/process we have conversations
UI library colleagues attended
meeting in person is great
appreciation for fierceness in communities + ability to be vulnerable here
worlds colliding — being able to share zine librarian awesomeness with library colleagues
taking the essence of the zluc back to own work/colleagues
open nature of communication
breaking up the day with workshops, etc.
shorter length of day / 10am start time
best zine event of the year!
being validated for labors of love